For sale: Framed and roofed 8×12. Asking $2400.00
An 8′ wide x 12′ long x 12′ high beginning of a tiny house. The framing is all reclamation materials and meets building codes. The roof is recycled metal. The floor can be used as is or install a floor on top. To fill in the walls, you would need roughly 26 2x4s and 10 sheets of plywood or MGO. It is tall enough for a loft. [ Ed: whoa, really??] It can fit on a trailer.
Now 8×12 is a pretty tiny tiny house by anyone’s standards – 96 square feet. The listing refers to it as a one bedroom, but aha, no bathrooms. I suppose one could move this to the woods and build an outhouse and call it home.
If I were to go tiny, I’d have to have the basic amenities. This one is for sale in CT at a way way too steep a price of $70k. For that amount of money, a real home, not on wheels can be bought in many towns across America.
But it does have a bathroom and loft and is huge in comparison to the first home, coming in at 190 square feet.
There are time saving opportunities galore in the bathroom – wash your hands WHILE using the toilet – why wait until afterwards?
And the loft is cute but who am I kidding – getting up and down wouldn’t be very easy, for me at least.
Here’s a cedar tiny home in Saugerties NY, bragging they get $800/month income as an AirBnB listing – hey, more power to them! Asking $25k and 160 square feet.
cute little house on wheels. 160 square feet. 8 x 20 on 6 ton trailer. wide board floors and siding, tin lights, copper gutters, quick connect water from hose, toilet, shower, point of use hot water heater, propane tank, cedar deck and 60 amp 6 circuit sub panel box. currently listed for 25K. Financing possible.
Currently get $800/mo on airbnb
But here’s the real problem for tiny house on wheels owners. THEY CAN NOT CONSIDERED A PERMANENT RESIDENCE.
From the website Inquisitor:
HUD’s new proposed rule would define an RV as “a factory build vehicular structure, not certified as a manufactured home, designed only for recreational use and not as a primary residence or for permanent occupancy.” HUD’s rule would require that units claiming the RV exemption display a notice that identifies the standards used to construct the unit and state that the unit is designed only for recreational use, and not as a primary residence or permanent dwelling.
More from the Inquisitor article:
The new HUD proposal would make a tiny house, if built to ANSI or NFPA standards, an RV and not suitable for permanent occupancy. To clarify though, in most places in the United States, it’s already illegal to live permanently in an RV. Local zoning ordinances dictate whether you can permanently live in a tiny house or an RV. In most U.S. communities, RVs are considered temporary shelters only and tiny houses often can’t qualify for a certificate of occupancy. The IRC is a residential code that regulates minimum requirements for all aspects of residential home construction like plumbing, energy efficiency, and electrical work. A certificate of occupancy is given after an IRC-compliant build. Tiny houses can’t meet some current IRC standards like height and design requirements. Also, many tiny houses are built on trailers and the IRC doesn’t recognize trailers as an allowable foundation for a permanent dwelling. Tiny houses often have a difficult time qualifying as a full-time dwelling, even by current standards.
Just Google the term “HUD changing Tiny Homes on Wheels” and yikes, every tiny house activist there is on the earth has come out to rip apart the HUD ruling. This guy is one such activist with his headline : US Government Declaring All Out War on Tiny House Living.
The author of the article is Isaac Davis: “Isaac Davis is a staff writer for WakingTimes.com and OffgridOutpost.com Survival Tips blog. He is an outspoken advocate of liberty and and a voluntary society. He is avid reader of history and passionate about becoming self-sufficient to break free of the control matrix” [Ed: Bernie supporter]
Here’s just one sentence from his article to give you a taste of his point of view:
The tiny house movement is one of the latest innovations in personal freedom from an overly consumeristic and a debt-driven society.
Well, okay, I’m not sure I’d take the HUD proposal that far but I do think there might be some people who will rethink a tiny house on wheels (it’s the wheels part that is the issue).
I do think there’s a booming market for people going tiny – it’s admirable in philosophy in one sense, less being more, but is it home ownership when there aren’t property taxes or IRS deductions? I only ask. I don’t know the answer.